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\"Oriol<\/a>
Oriol Bohigas<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n

Anoche estuve cenando en casa de Dolly y Santiago R\u00edos<\/a>, y \u00e9l me cont\u00f3 que hace unas semanas estaba en su ca\u00f3tico estudio y, como al parecer sucede con frecuencia, se cay\u00f3 al suelo una de sus numerosas y enormes cajas llenas de\u00a0papeles, quedando a la vista unas viejas cartas de un amigo suyo, fallecido precisamente ese mismo d\u00eda del 2014, y el recorte de un peri\u00f3dico de un art\u00edculo titulado: \u00abOriol Bohigas: Un arquitecto contra el Cine\u00bb, como sab\u00eda que yo iba a ir a cenar, lo guard\u00f3 para d\u00e1rmelo. Anoche me lo guard\u00e9 en el bolsillo sin leerlo y\u00a0esta ma\u00f1ana al verlo me di cuenta que el art\u00edculo lo hab\u00eda escrito yo hac\u00eda veinticuatro a\u00f1os.<\/p>\n

Dejando aparte las casualidades, si es que existen, lo que aqu\u00ed podr\u00eda interesar es el art\u00edculo en cuesti\u00f3n, publicado en el Diario de Avisos<\/em> el domingo 16 de junio de 1991<\/a>, en el que coment\u00e9 de una forma muy virulenta\u00a0unas reflexiones de Bohigas<\/a> relativas\u00a0al cine y en particular al espa\u00f1ol. El arquitecto en sus memorias escribe sobre\u00a0el Premio Pr\u00edncipe (ahora Princesa) de Asturias<\/a> de las Artes del a\u00f1o 1986 en el\u00a0que\u00a0era jurado y quer\u00eda que se lo diesen a Francisco Javier S\u00e1enz de Oiza, pero se lo otorgaron a Luis Garc\u00eda Berlanga<\/a> por lo que:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00absi hubiera ganado un cineasta de la talla de Bu\u00f1uel, o si en general el cine espa\u00f1ol fuera un fen\u00f3meno cultural de cierta envergadura, se habr\u00eda podido justificar la eliminaci\u00f3n de Oiza, que por lo menos representaba una actitud art\u00edstica bastante m\u00e1s seria y, en Espa\u00f1a, con un nivel infinitamente superior al del supuesto arte del cine. Debo reconocer que no estoy muy convencido de los par\u00e1metros art\u00edsticos del cine -del \u00abS\u00e9ptimo Arte\u00bb- y mucho menos de los del cine espa\u00f1ol. Se dir\u00eda que hasta ahora ha estado en manos de gente fracasada en otros campos art\u00edsticos, refugiados en un actividad que tiene tantas carencias como coartadas\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

y despu\u00e9s transcribe un comentario de Pilar Mir\u00f3<\/a> que tambi\u00e9n estaba en ese jurado:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abEso de la arquitectura en vez de estar en el Premio de las Artes, \u00bfno se deber\u00eda incluir en el de Investigaci\u00f3n Cient\u00edfica y T\u00e9cnica?\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

y Bohigas<\/a> se asombra:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abya he dicho antes que eso del cine alimenta en Espa\u00f1a elevados niveles de incultura\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Como dec\u00eda el mencionado Bu\u00f1uel:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abahora soy viejo y se ha apaciguado mi violencia\u00bb,<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

por lo que no voy a repetir mis vehementes opiniones de entonces en contra de\u00a0lo que escribi\u00f3 Bohigas<\/a>, s\u00f3lo voy a\u00a0copiar el final del art\u00edculo:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abEsta manera de pensar\u00a0en la propia actividad como \u00abel ombligo del mundo\u00bb, es la que lleva a la atroz incultura que hoy [en 1991] padecemos\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Hoy, en 2015, no creo que ni el cine, ni la arquitectura, deban considerarse \u00abartes\u00bb y adem\u00e1s afortunadamente, porque cuando as\u00ed ha sucedido, han\u00a0producido pel\u00edculas y, a\u00fan peor, edificios\u00a0execrables; pero esta es otra discusi\u00f3n m\u00e1s amplia y\u00a0este blog no es el lugar ni ahora el momento para abordarla.\u00a0Por cierto, gracias a Santiago por haber recuperado una parte de mi memoria y propiciar esta entrada al blog.<\/p>\n

Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto.
\nAutor del blog Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span>
\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, mayo 2015<\/p>\n

\"Oriol<\/a>
Oriol Bohigas<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n

Last night I was supping on in Dolly’s house and Santiago R\u00edos<\/a>, and it told me that a few weeks ago it was in his chaotic study and, since apparently it happens often, there fell to the soil one of his numerous and enormous boxes full of papers, staying at sight a few old letters of his, deceased friend precisely the same day of 2014, and the cut of a newspaper of a qualified article: \u00abOriol Bohigas: An architect against the Cinema\u00bb, since it knew that I was going to be going to have dinner, he guarded it to give it to me. Last night I guarded it in the pocket without reading it and this morning on having seen it I realized that the article had written it I was doing twenty-four years.<\/p>\n

Leaving apart the chances, if it is that they exist, what here might be interested is the article in question, published in the Diario de Avisos<\/em><\/a> on Sunday, the 16th of June, 1991, in which I commented of a very virulent form on a few reflections of Bohigas relative to the cinema and especially to the Spanish. The architect in his memories writes on the Prize Prince (now Princess) of Asturias of the Arts<\/a> of the year 1986 in the one that was sworn and wanted that it was given to Francisco Javier S\u00e1enz de Oiza, but it was granted to Luis Garc\u00eda Berlanga<\/a> by what:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abif there had won a filmmaker of Bu\u00f1uel’s height, or if in general the Spanish cinema was a cultural phenomenon of certain importance, one might have justified Oiza’s elimination, which at least was representing a more serious enough artistic attitude and, in Spain, with a level infinitely superior to that of the supposed art of the cinema. I must admit that I am not be very sure of the artistic parameters of the cinema – of the \u00bb Seventh Art \u00bb – and much less those of the Spanish cinema. It would be said that till now it has been in hands of failed people in other artistic, refugee fields in an actividad that takes so many lacks as alibis\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

and later he transcribes Pilar Mir\u00f3\u00b4s <\/a>comment that also was in this juror:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abIt of the architecture instead of being in the Prize of the Arts, should not it include in that of Scientific and Technical Investigation?\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

and Bohigas<\/a> astonishes:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abalready I have said before that it on the cinema feeds in Spain raised levels of lack of refinement\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

As was saying the mentioned one Bu\u00f1uel:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abnow I am old and my violence has calmed down\u00bb,<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

for what I am not going to repeat my vehement opinions of then in opposition to what he wrote Bohigas<\/a>, only I am going to copy the end of the article:<\/p>\n

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\u00abThis way of thinking about the own activity as \u00abthe navel of the world\u00bb, is the one that leads to the atrocious lack of refinement that today [in 1991] we suffer\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Today, in 2015, I do not believe neither that nor the cinema, nor the architecture, they should be considered to be \u00abarts\u00bb and in addition lucky, because when like that it has happened, they have produced movies and, even worse, execrable buildings; but this one is another more wide discussion and this blog is neither the nor place now the moment to approach it. Certainly, thanks to Santiago for having recovered a part of my memory and propitiating this entry to the blog.<\/p>\n

Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto.
\nAuthor of the blog Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span>
\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, may 2015<\/p>\n

\"Oriol<\/a>
Oriol Bohigas<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n

Onte \u00e1 noite estiven a cear na casa de Dolly e Santiago R\u00edos<\/a>, e el contoume que hai unhas semanas estaba no seu ca\u00f3tico estudo e, como ao parecer sucede con frecuencia, caeu ao chan unha das s\u00faas numerosas e enormes caixas cheas de papeis, quedando \u00e1 vista unhas vellas cartas dun amigo seu, falecido precisamente ese mesmo d\u00eda do 2014, e o recorte dun xornal dun artigo titulado: \u00abOriol Bohigas: Un arquitecto contra o Cine\u00bb, como sab\u00eda que eu \u00eda ir a cear, gardouno para darmo. Onte \u00e1 noite gardeimo no peto sen lelo e esta ma\u00f1\u00e1 ao velo decateime que o artigo o escribira eu hab\u00eda vinte e catro anos.<\/p>\n

Deixando \u00e1 parte as casualidades, se \u00e9 que existen, o que aqu\u00ed poder\u00eda interesar \u00e9 o artigo en cuesti\u00f3n, publicado no Diario de Avisos<\/em> o domingo 16 de xu\u00f1o de 1991<\/a>, no que comentei dunha forma moi virulenta unhas reflexi\u00f3ns de Bohigas relativas ao cine e en particular ao espa\u00f1ol. O arquitecto nas s\u00faas memorias escribe sobre o Premio Pr\u00edncipe (agora Princesa) de Asturias<\/a> das Artes do ano 1986 no que era xurado e quer\u00eda que llelo desen a Francisco Javier S\u00e1enz de Oiza, pero llelo outorgaron a Luis Garc\u00eda Berlanga<\/a> polo que:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abse tivese ga\u00f1ado un cineasta do talle de Bu\u00f1uel, ou se en xeral o cine espa\u00f1ol fose un fen\u00f3meno cultural de certa envergadura, ter\u00edase podido xustificar a eliminaci\u00f3n de Oiza, que polo menos representaba unha actitude art\u00edstica bastante m\u00e1is seria e, en Espa\u00f1a, cun nivel infinitamente superior ao da suposta arte do cine. Debo reco\u00f1ecer que non estou moi convencido dos par\u00e1metros art\u00edsticos do cine -da \u00abS\u00e9tima Arte\u00bb – e moito menos dos do cine espa\u00f1ol. Dir\u00edase que ata agora estivo en mans de xente fracasada noutros campos art\u00edsticos, refuxiados nun actividade que ten tantas carencias como coartadas\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

e despois transcribe un comentario de Pilar Mir\u00f3<\/a> que tam\u00e9n estaba nese xurado:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abIso da arquitectura en vez de estar no Premio das Artes, non se deber\u00eda inclu\u00edr no de Investigaci\u00f3n Cient\u00edfica e T\u00e9cnica?\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

e Bohigas<\/a> as\u00f3mbrase:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abxa dixen antes que iso do cine alimenta en Espa\u00f1a elevados niveis de incultura\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Como dic\u00eda o mencionado Bu\u00f1uel:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abagora son vello e tranquilizouse a mi\u00f1a violencia\u00bb,<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

polo que non vou repetir as mi\u00f1as vehementes opini\u00f3ns de ent\u00f3n en contra do que escribiu Bohigas<\/a>, s\u00f3 vou copiar o final do artigo:<\/p>\n

\n

\u00abEste xeito de pensar na propia actividade como \u00abo embigo do mundo\u00bb, \u00e9 a que leva \u00e1 atroz incultura que hoxe [en 1991] padecemos\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Hoxe, en 2015, non creo que nin o cine, nin a arquitectura, deban considerarse \u00abartes\u00bb e ademais afortunadamente, porque cando as\u00ed sucedeu, produciron pel\u00edculas e, a\u00ednda peor, edificios execrables; pero esta \u00e9 outra discusi\u00f3n m\u00e1is ampla e este blog non \u00e9 o lugar nin agora o momento para abordala. Por certo, grazas a Santiago por recuperar unha parte da mi\u00f1a memoria e propiciar esta entrada ao blog.<\/p>\n

Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto.
\nAutor do blogue Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span>
\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, maio 2015<\/p>\n

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