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Jean Renoir: El jefe, 1994, Francia | Fuente: incaatv.gov.ar<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n

Estoy seguro que Jean Renoir<\/a> es uno de los grandes maestros de la historia del cine, basta con ver grandes pel\u00edculas como La gran ilusi\u00f3n<\/a><\/em>, La Marsellesa<\/a><\/em>, La regla del juego<\/em>, Esta tierra es m\u00eda<\/a><\/em> y El r\u00edo<\/a><\/em>, para comprobarlo. Adem\u00e1s sus memorias son estupendas y cada vez que he le\u00eddo algo que hab\u00eda dicho me pareci\u00f3 interesante, ahora he encontrado una entrevista que le hicieron Michel Delahaye<\/a> y Jean-Andr\u00e9 Fieschi<\/a> en Cahiers du cinema<\/a><\/em>, en ella dice lo siguiente sobre la arquitectura:<\/p>\n

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\u00abDesconf\u00edo terriblemente de los planes. Y creo, creo firmemente, que lo peor de nuestra civilizaci\u00f3n -que, por supuesto, tiene aspectos superiores, gran belleza- creo que todo lo inferior, todo lo que es feo en la civilizaci\u00f3n del siglo XX, viene de los planes. Los planes son feos. Planos. Planos de arquitectos. Es por eso que no hay arquitectura, porque hay planos.<\/em><\/p>\n

Creo que la gran arquitectura consiste en construir un edificio y despu\u00e9s decir: \u00bfQu\u00e9 vamos a hacer aqu\u00ed? Aqu\u00ed, bueno, podr\u00edamos poner la cocina, esto realmente parece una cocina, y entonces podemos poner el dormitorio en otro lugar… pero todo es ya del constructor, y todo se adapta. La materia se adapta al esp\u00edritu; se fusiona con ella despu\u00e9s del hecho. \u00a1En otras palabras, viva Sartre, y larga vida a la idea que la existencia precede a la esencia!…<\/em><\/p>\n

Oh, s\u00ed<\/em>, realmente lo creo. Porque en definitiva, hoy en d\u00eda todo, absolutamente cada cosa, se ha planeado. Imag\u00ednense esto. Conozco algunas personas que tienen una casa que se construir\u00e1 pronto, cuyos planos est\u00e1n todos acabados, y que tienen un dibujo preparado con antelaci\u00f3n que indica el lugar donde ir\u00e1n el sof\u00e1 y la mesa y las sillas \u00a1Es realmente incre\u00edble! Es como la creaci\u00f3n de un marco para uno mismo en la vida, pero \u00bfC\u00f3mo puede entrar la vida en este marco? Es un marco destructivo. Pero demasiadas cosas hoy se hacen de esta manera; empiezan con un plano<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Comenc\u00e9 alabando a Renoir con raz\u00f3n, pero no puedo estar de acuerdo con lo que declar\u00f3 sobre la arquitectura y los planos -aunque pudiera aceptar lo que dice con respecto a los planes-, un proyecto arquitect\u00f3nico es esencial para lograr un edificio digno y la prueba es que la mayor\u00eda de los edificios construidos sin proyecto son espantosos e invivibles. Este desacuerdo no impide que siga admirando la obra de Renoir, quiz\u00e1s porque pienso que siempre se puede separar lo que se dice de qui\u00e9n lo dice.<\/p>\n

Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. Autor del blog Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span>
\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, noviembre 2014<\/p>\n

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Jean Renoir: The chief, 1994, France | Source: incaatv.gov.ar<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n

I am sure that Jean Renoir is one of the big teachers of the history of the cinema, it is enough to see big movies as\u00a0Le Grande Illusion<\/a><\/em>, La Marseillaise<\/a><\/em>, La regle du jeu<\/em>, This lind is mine<\/a><\/em> and Leflueve<\/a><\/em>,\u00a0to verify it. In addition his memories are marvellous and whenever I have read something that he had said it seemed to me to be interesting, now I have found an interview that they did to him Michel Delahaye<\/a> and Jean-Andr\u00e9 Fieschi<\/a> in Cahiers du cinema<\/a><\/em>, in her he says the following thing on the architecture:<\/p>\n

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\u00abI distrust terribly the plans. And I believe, think firmly, that the worse of our civilization – that, certainly, it has top aspects, great beauty – I think that everything low, everything what is ugly in the civilization of the 20th century, comes from the plans. The plans are ugly. Planes. Architects’ planes. It is because of it that there is no architecture, because there are planes.<\/em><\/p>\n

I think that the great architecture consists of constructing a building and later to say: what are we going to do here? Here, good, we might put the kitchen, this really looks like a kitchen, and then we can put the bedroom in another place … but everything belongs already to the builder, and everything adapts. The matter adapts to the spirit; it fuses with her after the fact. In other words, alive Sartre, and long life to the idea that the existence precedes the essence!…<\/em><\/p>\n

Oh, yes, really I believe it. Because definitively, nowadays quite, absolutely every thing, it has been planned. Imagine this. I know some persons who have a house that will be constructed soon, whose planes are all finished, and that they have a prepared drawing in advance that indicates the place where there will go the sofa and the table and the chairs it is really incredible! It is like the creation of a frame for one same in the life, but how can it enter the life in this frame? It is a destructive frame. But too many things today are done hereby; they begin with a plane<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I started by praising Renoir deservedly, but I cannot agree with what he declared on the architecture and the planes – though it could accept what he says with regard to the plans-, an architectural project is essential to achieve a worthy building and the test is that the majority of the buildings constructed without project are frightful and invivibles. This disagreement does not prevent that it continues admiring Renoir’s work, probably because I think that always it is possible to separate what is said of whom he says it.<\/p>\n

Jorge Gorostiza, architect. Author of the blog Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span>
\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, november 2014<\/p>\n

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Jean Renoir: O xefe, 1994, Francia | Fonte: incaatv.gov.ar<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n

Estou seguro que\u00a0Jean Renoir<\/a>\u00a0\u00e9 un dos grandes mestres da historia do cine, basta con ver grandes pel\u00edculas como A gran ilusi\u00f3n<\/a><\/em>, A Marsellesa<\/a><\/em>, A regla do xogo<\/em>, Esta terra \u00e9 mi\u00f1a<\/a><\/em> e O r\u00edo<\/a><\/em>,\u00a0para comprobalo. Ademais as s\u00faas memorias son estupendas e cada vez que lin algo que dixera me pareceu interesante, agora encontrei unha entrevista que lle fixeron Michel Delahaye<\/a> e Jean-Andr\u00e9 Fieschi<\/a> en Cahiers du cinema<\/a><\/em>, nela din o seguinte sobre a arquitectura:<\/p>\n

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\u00abDesconf\u00edo terriblemente dos plans. E creo, creo firmemente, que o peor da nosa civilizaci\u00f3n -que, por suposto, ten aspectos superiores, gran beleza- creo que todo o inferior, todo o que \u00e9 feo na civilizaci\u00f3n do s\u00e9culo XX, v\u00e9n dos plans. Os plans son feos. Planos. Planos de arquitectos. \u00c9 por iso que non hai arquitectura, porque hai planos.<\/em><\/p>\n

Creo que a grande arquitectura consiste en constru\u00edr un edificio e despois dicir: \u00bfQue imos facer aqu\u00ed? Aqu\u00ed, ben, poderiamos po\u00f1er a coci\u00f1a, isto realmente parece unha coci\u00f1a, e ent\u00f3n podemos po\u00f1er o dormitorio noutro lugar… pero todo \u00e9 xa do construtor, e todo se adapta. A materia ad\u00e1ptase ao esp\u00edrito; fusi\u00f3nase con ela despois do feito. \u00a1Noutras palabras, viva Sartre, e longa vida \u00e1 idea que a existencia precede \u00e1 esencia!…<\/em><\/p>\n

Oh, si, realmente cr\u00e9oo. Porque en definitiva, hoxe en d\u00eda todo, absolutamente cada cousa, se planeou. Imax\u00ednense isto. Co\u00f1ezo algunhas persoas que te\u00f1en unha casa que se construir\u00e1 pronto, cuxos planos est\u00e1n todos acabados, e que te\u00f1en un debuxo preparado con antelaci\u00f3n que indica o lugar onde ir\u00e1n o sof\u00e1 e a mesa e as cadeiras \u00a1\u00c9 realmente incrible! \u00c9 como a creaci\u00f3n dun marco para un mesmo na vida, pero \u00bfComo pode entrar a vida neste marco? \u00c9 un marco destrutivo. Pero demasiadas cousas hoxe fanse deste xeito; empezan cun plano\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Comecei gabando a Renoir con raz\u00f3n, pero non podo estar de acordo co que declarou sobre a arquitectura e os planos -a\u00ednda que puidese aceptar o que di con respecto aos plans-, un proxecto arquitect\u00f3nico \u00e9 esencial para lograr un edificio digno e a proba \u00e9 que a maior\u00eda dos edificios constru\u00eddos sen proxecto son espantosos e invivibles. Este desacordo non impide que siga admirando a obra de Renoir, quizais porque penso que sempre se pode separar o que se di de quen o di.<\/p>\n

Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. Autor do blogue Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span>
\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, novembro 2014<\/p>\n

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