{"id":48783,"date":"2012-12-05T06:23:12","date_gmt":"2012-12-05T06:23:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/?p=48783"},"modified":"2019-12-13T19:16:35","modified_gmt":"2019-12-13T18:16:35","slug":"perec-jorge-gorostiza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/perec-jorge-gorostiza\/","title":{"rendered":"<!--:es-->Perec | Jorge Gorostiza<!--:--><!--:gl-->Perec | Jorge Gorostiza<!--:--><!--:en-->Perec | Jorge Gorostiza<!--:-->"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--:es--><figure id=\"attachment_48785\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48785\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-48785\" title=\"perec_schwartz\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"843\" srcset=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg 250w, https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz-220x300.jpg 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48785\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #888888;\">George Perec, Schwartz<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">No voy a descubrir aqu\u00ed a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Georges_Perec\" target=\"_blank\">Georges Perec<\/a> y es muy dif\u00edcil aportar algo nuevo a todo lo que se ha escrito sobre este autor fundamental. Este comentario surge porque acabo de leer <a href=\"http:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/tentativa-de-agotamiento-de-un-lugar-parisino-%C2%B7-georges-perec\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Tentativa de agotamiento de un lugar parisino<\/em><\/a> -ya s\u00e9 que deber\u00eda haberlo le\u00eddo\u00a0antes-que ha publicado en 2012 Gustavo Gili, una editorial que\u00a0ha sido siempre una referencia en libros de arquitectura en espa\u00f1ol,\u00a0aunque no se debe olvidar que\u00a0el texto de Perec es muy arquitect\u00f3nico. Supongo que ya sabr\u00e1n\u00a0\u00a0de qu\u00e9 trata,\u00a0durante tres d\u00edas seguidos de octubre de 1974,\u00a0estuvo sentado en diversos lugares en la Plaza Saint-Sulpice de Par\u00eds y\u00a0en varios momentos de cada d\u00eda fue anotando\u00a0lo que ve\u00eda -o dijo que ve\u00eda-, las palomas,\u00a0las personas, los veh\u00edculos, los perros, las nubes, la luz&#8230; Para saber m\u00e1s recomiendo el estupendo <a href=\"http:\/\/www.enriquevilamatas.com\/textos\/textcafeperec.html\" target=\"_blank\">art\u00edculo<\/a> -como casi todos los suyos- de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.enriquevilamatas.com\/autobiografia.html\" target=\"_blank\">Enrique Vila-Matas<\/a> sobre este texto de Perec.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Les confieso que,\u00a0a pesar de haber estado en Par\u00eds bastantes veces, jam\u00e1s estuve en esa plaza, por lo que\u00a0no pude evitar la tentaci\u00f3n de\u00a0entrar en\u00a0Google Maps\u00a0y buscarla, decid\u00ed entonces recorrerla con la ayuda del <a href=\"https:\/\/maps.google.es\/maps?hl=es&amp;q=perec&amp;psj=1&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&amp;bpcl=40096503&amp;biw=489&amp;bih=549&amp;wrapid=tlif135600391289610&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;sa=N&amp;tab=wl\" target=\"_blank\">Street View<\/a>:\u00a0Gran decepci\u00f3n, NO lo hagan, -al menos hoy,\u00a0ma\u00f1ana es posible que haya cambiado-, porque la plaza est\u00e1 vallada y la mayor\u00eda de las fachadas de los edificios, as\u00ed como de la iglesia est\u00e1n tapadas con andamios, lo \u00fanico que se ve es parte de las plantas bajas y los coches circulando por las calzadas. Algo muy propio de estos tiempos cuando en nuestras ciudades y nuestra vida lo provisional triunfa sobre lo peremne.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Lo \u00fanco curioso de este recorrido sucede con la fachada del Ayuntamiento que cambia en tres fotos consecutivas, porque tiene tres cartelones diferentes de tres exposiciones celebradas en mayo, marzo y octubre de 2008, otro ejemplo de c\u00f3mo el tiempo modifica al espacio, lo que quiz\u00e1s le hubiera gustado a Perec.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Como este es un blog sobre cine y arquitectura, se debe mencionar que en <em>Tentativa de agotamiento de un lugar parisino <\/em>hay varias referencias cinematogr\u00e1ficas: Perec escribe que en la plaza de Saint-Sulpice hay un cine; por ella pasan la actriz y dramaturga <a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Genevi%C3%A8ve_Serreau\" target=\"_blank\">Genevi\u00e8ve Serreau<\/a>\u00a0y un Michel Martens, con un paraguas color geranio, que puede ser el guionista Michel Martens; el autor\u00a0ve a un polic\u00eda que se parece al actor <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Michael_Lonsdale\" target=\"_blank\">Michel Lonsdale<\/a> y el 19 de octubre a las dos de la tarde escribe:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abPasa\u00a0Paul Virilio: va a ver al asqueroso Gatsby al Bonaparte\u00bb<\/em>,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">efectivamente, el cine antes mencionado era el Bonaparte, situado en el n\u00famero 76 de la calle hom\u00f3nima, se inaugur\u00f3 en 1931, ten\u00eda 430 plazas y se cerr\u00f3 en 1987, transform\u00e1ndose primero en un estudio de televisi\u00f3n y hoy es una tienda, La Maison de la Chine; en cuanto \u00abal asqueroso Gatsby\u00bb, debe referirse a <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0071577\/\" target=\"_blank\">El\u00a0gran Gatsby<\/a><\/em> (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Great_Gatsby_%281974_film%29\" target=\"_blank\">The Great Gatsby<\/a><\/em>, Jack Clayton, 1974), estrenada en Francia el 16 de octubre de ese a\u00f1o,\u00a0y aunque es verdad que la pel\u00edcula\u00a0es bastante mala, no creo que\u00a0tanto como \u00abasquerosa\u00bb, respecto a <a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paul_Virilio\" target=\"_blank\">Virilio<\/a>, tampoco voy a glosar al urbanista que tanto me interes\u00f3 hace unos a\u00f1os,\u00a0la uni\u00f3n de Virilio, Gatsby y el asco, seg\u00fan una nota de Maurici Pla -el traductor del libro que antes cit\u00e9-,\u00a0es una iron\u00eda sobre Virilio, pero eso quiz\u00e1s nunca lleguemos a saberlo con certeza.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Lo que si es cierto es que el texto de Perec, como todo lo que he le\u00eddo de \u00e9l, es completamente recomendable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. <span style=\"color: #888888;\">Autor del blog <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span><br \/>\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, diciembre 2012<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--:en--><figure id=\"attachment_48785\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48785\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-48785\" title=\"perec_schwartz\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"843\" srcset=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg 250w, https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz-220x300.jpg 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48785\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #888888;\">George Perec, Schwartz<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I am not going to discover here\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Georges_Perec\" target=\"_blank\">Georges Perec<\/a> and it is very difficult to contribute something new to everything what one has written on this fundamental author. This comment arises because I have just read <a href=\"http:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/tentativa-de-agotamiento-de-un-lugar-parisino-%C2%B7-georges-perec\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Attempt of depletion of a parisian place<\/em><\/a> &#8211; already I know that it should have read it before that has published in 2012 Gustavo Gili, a publishing house that has been always a reference in books of architecture in Spanish, though it is not necessary to to forget that Perec&#8217;s text is very architectural. I suppose that already they will know of what it treats, for three days followed by October, 1974, it was sat in diverse places in the Plaza Saint-Sulpice of Paris and in several moments of every day it was annotating what it saw &#8211; or said that it saw-, the doves, the persons, the vehicles, the dogs, the clouds, the light&#8230; To know more I recommend the marvellous\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.enriquevilamatas.com\/textos\/textcafeperec.html\" target=\"_blank\">article<\/a> &#8211; as almost all his ones &#8211; of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.enriquevilamatas.com\/autobiografia.html\" target=\"_blank\">Enrique Vila-Matas<\/a> on this Perec&#8217;s text.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I confess to them that, in spite of enough times have been in Paris, I was never in this square, for what I could not avoid the temptation of entering Google Maps and look for her, I decided then to cross it with the help of the <a href=\"https:\/\/maps.google.es\/maps?hl=es&#038;q=perec&#038;psj=1&#038;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&#038;bpcl=40096503&#038;biw=489&#038;bih=549&#038;wrapid=tlif135600391289610&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=wl\" target=\"_blank\">Street View<\/a>: Great disappointment, do not do it, &#8211; at least less today, tomorrow it is possible that it has changed-, because the square is fenced and the majority of the fronts of the buildings, as well as with the church they are covered by scaffoldings, the only thing that one sees is a part of the ground floors and the cars circulating along the causeways. Slightly very own of these times when in our cities and our life the provisional thing triumphs on peremne.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Curious \u00fanco of this tour happens with the front of the Town hall that it changes in three consecutive photos, because it has three cartelones different from three exhibitions celebrated in May, March and October, 2008, another example of how the time modifies to the space, which probably Perec had liked.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Since this one is a blog on cinema and architecture, it is necessary to to mention that in <em>Attempt of depletion of a parisian place<\/em> there are several cinematographic references: Perec writes that in Saint-Sulpice&#8217;s square there is a cinema; for her they happen the actress and dramaturga\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Genevi%C3%A8ve_Serreau\" target=\"_blank\">Genevi\u00e8ve Serreau<\/a> and a Michel Martens, with an umbrella color geranium, which can be the scriptwriter Michel Martens; the author sees a policeman who looks like the actor\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Michael_Lonsdale\" target=\"_blank\">Michel Lonsdale<\/a> and on October 19 at two o&#8217;clock in the afternoon writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abPaul Virilio happens: it is going to see the disgusting Gatsby to the Bonaparte\u00bb<\/em>,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">really, the cinema before mentioned was the Bonaparte placed in the number 76 of the homonymous street, it was inaugurated in 1931, it had 430 squares and it was closed in 1987, transforming firstly in a study of television and today it is a shop, The Maison de la Chine; in all that \u00abto the disgusting Gatsby\u00bb,, it must refer to <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Great_Gatsby_%281974_film%29\" target=\"_blank\">The Great Gatsby<\/a><\/em>, Jack Clayton, 1974), released in France on October 16 of this year, and though it is true that the movie is bad enough, I do not believe that so much like \u00abdisgusting\u00bb,, with regard to\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paul_Virilio\" target=\"_blank\">Virilio<\/a>, I am going to annotate to the town planner in that so much I was interested a few years ago, the union of Virilio, Gatsby and the disgust, according to Maurici Pla&#8217;s note &#8211; the translator of the book that before I mentioned &#8211; not also, it is an irony on Virilio, but it probably let&#8217;s never manage to know it with certainty.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">What if it is true is that Perec&#8217;s text, as everything what I have read of him, is completely advisable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Jorge Gorostiza, architect. <span style=\"color: #888888;\">Author of the blog <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span><br \/>\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, december 2012<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--:gl--><figure id=\"attachment_48785\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-48785\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-48785\" title=\"perec_schwartz\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"843\" srcset=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz.jpg 250w, https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/11\/perec_schwartz-220x300.jpg 220w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-48785\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #888888;\">George Perec, Schwartz<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Non vou descubrir aqu\u00ed a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Georges_Perec\" target=\"_blank\">Georges Perec<\/a> e \u00e9 moi dif\u00edcil achegar algo novo a todo o que se escribiu sobre este autor fundamental. Este comentario xorde porque acabo de ler\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/tentativa-de-agotamiento-de-un-lugar-parisino-%C2%B7-georges-perec\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Tentativa de esgotamento dun lugar parisino<\/em><\/a> -xa sei que deber\u00eda telo lido antes-que publicou en 2012 Gustavo Gili, unha editorial que foi sempre unha referencia en libros de arquitectura en espa\u00f1ol, a\u00ednda que non se debe esquecer que o texto de Perec \u00e9 moi arquitect\u00f3nico. Supo\u00f1o que xa saber\u00e1n de que trata, durante tres d\u00edas seguidos de outubro de 1974, estivo sentado en diversos lugares na Praza Saint-Sulpice de Par\u00eds e en varios momentos de cada d\u00eda foi anotando o que v\u00eda -ou dixo que v\u00eda-, as pombas, as persoas, os veh\u00edculos, os cans, as nubes, a luz&#8230; Para saber m\u00e1is recomendo o estupendo\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.enriquevilamatas.com\/textos\/textcafeperec.html\" target=\"_blank\">artigo<\/a> -como case todos os seus- de\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.enriquevilamatas.com\/autobiografia.html\" target=\"_blank\">Enrique Vila-Matas<\/a> sobre este texto de Perec.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Conf\u00e9solles que, a pesar de estar en Par\u00eds bastantes veces, xamais estiven nesa praza, polo que non puiden evitar a tentaci\u00f3n de entrar en Google Maps e buscala, decid\u00edn ent\u00f3n percorrela coa axuda do <a href=\"https:\/\/maps.google.es\/maps?hl=es&#038;q=perec&#038;psj=1&#038;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&#038;bpcl=40096503&#038;biw=489&#038;bih=549&#038;wrapid=tlif135600391289610&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;sa=N&#038;tab=wl\" target=\"_blank\">Street View<\/a>: Gran decepci\u00f3n, non o fagan, -polo menos hoxe, ma\u00f1\u00e1 \u00e9 posible que cambiase-, porque a praza est\u00e1 valada e a maior\u00eda das fachadas dos edificios, as\u00ed como da igrexa est\u00e1n tapadas con estadas, o \u00fanico que se ve \u00e9 parte das plantas baixas e os coches circulando polas calzadas. Algo moi propio destes tempos cando nas nosas cidades e a nosa vida o provisional triunfa sobre o peremne.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O \u00fanco curioso deste recorrido sucede coa fachada do Concello que cambia en tres fotos consecutivas, porque ten tres cartelones diferentes de tres exposici\u00f3ns celebradas en maio, marzo e outubro de 2008, outro exemplo de como o tempo modifica ao espazo, o que quizais lle tivese gustado a Perec.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Como este \u00e9 un blog sobre cine e arquitectura, d\u00e9bese mencionar que en <em>Tentativa de esgotamento dun lugar parisiense<\/em> hai varias referencias cinematogr\u00e1ficas: Perec escribe que na praza de Saint-Sulpice hai un cine; por ela pasan a actriz e dramaturga\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Genevi%C3%A8ve_Serreau\" target=\"_blank\">Genevi\u00e8ve Serreau<\/a> e un Michel Martens, cun paraugas cor xeranio, que pode ser o guionista Michel Martens; o autor ve un polic\u00eda que se parece ao actor\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Michael_Lonsdale\" target=\"_blank\">Michel Lonsdale<\/a> e o 19 de outubro \u00e1s d\u00faas da tarde escribe:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abPasa Paul Virilio: vai ver o noxento Gatsby ao Bonaparte\u00bb<\/em>,<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">efectivamente, o cine antes mencionado era o Bonaparte, situado no n\u00famero 76 da r\u00faa hom\u00f3nima, inaugurouse en 1931, ti\u00f1a 430 prazas e pechouse en 1987, transform\u00e1ndose primeiro nun estudo de televisi\u00f3n e hoxe \u00e9 unha tenda, La Maison de la Chine; en canto \u00abao noxento Gatsby\u00bb, debe referirse a <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0071577\/\" target=\"_blank\">O gran Gatsby<\/a><\/em> (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Great_Gatsby_%281974_film%29\" target=\"_blank\">The Great Gatsby<\/a><\/em>, Jack Clayton, 1974), estreada en Francia o 16 de outubro dese ano, e a\u00ednda que \u00e9 verdade que a pel\u00edcula \u00e9 bastante mala, non creo que tanto como \u00abnoxenta\u00bb, respecto a Virilio, tampouco vou glosar o urbanista que tanto me interesou hai uns anos, a uni\u00f3n de Virilio, Gatsby e o noxo, segundo unha nota de Maurici Pla -o tradutor do libro que antes citei-, \u00e9 unha iron\u00eda sobre\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paul_Virilio\" target=\"_blank\">Virilio<\/a>, pero iso quizais nunca cheguemos a sabelo con certeza.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O que se \u00e9 certo \u00e9 que o texto de Perec, como todo o que lin del, \u00e9 completamente recomendable.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. <span style=\"color: #888888;\">Autor do blogue <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span><br \/>\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, decembro 2012<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No voy a descubrir aqu\u00ed a Georges Perec y es muy dif\u00edcil aportar algo nuevo a todo lo que se ha escrito sobre este autor fundamental. Este comentario surge porque acabo de leer Tentativa de agotamiento de un lugar parisino -ya s\u00e9 que deber\u00eda haberlo le\u00eddo\u00a0antes-que ha publicado en 2012 Gustavo Gili, una editorial que\u00a0ha [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":34,"featured_media":48785,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,1460,5951],"tags":[12471,2514,11221,516,11219,6141,11217,11216,1593,7782,11220,11218,11215],"class_list":["post-48783","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-capturas","category-cine","category-slider-principal","tag-cine","tag-editorial-gustavo-gili","tag-enrique-vila-matas","tag-espacio-publico","tag-genevieve-serreau","tag-georges-perec","tag-jack-clayton","tag-jay-gatsby","tag-jorge-gorostiza","tag-maurici-pla","tag-michel-lonsdale","tag-michel-martens","tag-paul-virilio"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the 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