{"id":21327,"date":"2012-04-12T06:12:10","date_gmt":"2012-04-12T06:12:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/?p=21327"},"modified":"2022-01-13T09:32:41","modified_gmt":"2022-01-13T08:32:41","slug":"peter-greenaway-i-arquitectos-y-cineastas-jorge-gorostiza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/peter-greenaway-i-arquitectos-y-cineastas-jorge-gorostiza\/","title":{"rendered":"<!--:es-->Peter Greenaway (I). Arquitectos y Cineastas | Jorge Gorostiza<!--:--><!--:gl-->Peter Greenaway (I). Arquitectos e Cineastas | Jorge Gorostiza<!--:--><!--:en-->Peter Greenaway (I). Architects and Filmmakers | Jorge Gorostiza<!--:-->"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--:es--><figure id=\"attachment_21329\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21329\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/peter2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-21329\" title=\"peter2\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/peter2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"822\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21329\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #888888;\">Peter Greenaway<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">En la serie de textos que he denominado <em>Arquitectos y Cineastas<\/em> y que relacionan la realizaci\u00f3n de una pel\u00edcula con la construcci\u00f3n de un edificio,\u00a0he ido publicando algunos de directores, como <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/09\/ingmar-bergman-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ingmar Bergman<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/10\/john-ford-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Walerian Borowcyk<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/search?q=clair\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ren\u00e9 Clair<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/10\/john-ford-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Ford<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/05\/amos-gitai-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amos Gitai<\/a> y <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/search?q=vertov\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dziga Vertov<\/a>;\u00a0\u00a0de una actriz, Viola Dana\u00a0y de un\u00a0investigador, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/05\/sigfried-gideon-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sigfried Giedion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hace poco <em>reencontr\u00e9<\/em>\u00a0un texto de Peter Greenaway, un artista que\u00a0nunca ha podido considerarse s\u00f3lo un cineasta y que me interesa mucho desde que vi en una sesi\u00f3n nocturna de los Alphaville <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Draughtsman%27s_Contract\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">El contrato del dibujante<\/a><\/em>, despu\u00e9s, a finales de los a\u00f1os ochenta,\u00a0\u00a0estuve un a\u00f1o de mi vida\u00a0profundizando en su obra -el fruto de esa investigaci\u00f3n fue un <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casadellibro.com\/libro-peter-greenaway\/9788437613628\/493839\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">libro<\/a> publicado por <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catedra.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Editorial C\u00e1tedra<\/a>&#8211; a partir de entonces no he podido dejar de interesarme por las muchas y diversas actividades que ha desarrollado y, de hecho, he escrito algunos art\u00edculos sobre sus \u00faltimas obras y he dado alguna conferencia\u00a0-es muy posible que en octubre de este a\u00f1o imparta otra- sobre su compleja trayectoria, que va desde su \u00e9poca juvenil como montador cinematogr\u00e1fico a la actual en que da conciertos multitudinarios como video-jockey.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">El texto de Greenaway pertenece a una entrevista realizada cuando estren\u00f3 <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Belly_of_an_Architect\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">El vientre de un arquitecto<\/a><\/em> -por cierto, <a href=\"http:\/\/independent.academia.edu\/JorgeGorostiza\/Papers\/1535221\/El_sintoma_del_vientre_de_un_arquitecto\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">aqu\u00ed<\/a> hay un art\u00edculo m\u00edo muy antiguo sobre esta pel\u00edcula- y es el siguiente:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abMe parece tambi\u00e9n que hay una clara analog\u00eda entre el proceso de fabricaci\u00f3n de una pel\u00edcula y el de un edificio&#8230; como los reali\u00adzadores los arquitectos conciben grandes proyectos que ponen en juego importantes presupuestos y que acaban por no realizarse nunca. Adem\u00e1s en torno a las dos profesiones se encuentra la misma muestra heterog\u00e9nea de personajes: productores, financie\u00adros, organizadores, cr\u00edticos, p\u00fablico, etc. Despu\u00e9s de haber empleado tiempo, dinero, e imaginaci\u00f3n, tanto el arquitecto como el realizador, pueden, a fin de cuentas, ver como se echa a perder su proyecto\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Es cierto que, como dec\u00eda Greenaway, los personajes, a veces maquiav\u00e9licos,\u00a0que rodean tanto a los\u00a0cineastas como a los arquitectos, pueden frustrar sus intenciones, pero tambi\u00e9n es cierto que a menudo esas intenciones son nefastas\u00a0y es m\u00e1s beneficioso para la sociedad -pienso, sobre todo,\u00a0en los arquitectos-\u00a0que no se finalicen.<\/p>\n<p>Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. <span style=\"color: #888888;\">Autor del blog <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span><br \/>\nSanta Cruz de Tenerife, abril 2012<!--:--><!--:en--><figure id=\"attachment_21329\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21329\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/peter2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-21329\" title=\"peter2\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/peter2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"822\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21329\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #888888;\">Peter Greenaway<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In the series of texts that have designated <em>Architects and Film-makers<\/em> and that relate the realisation of a film with the construction of a building, have gone publishing some of directors, as\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/09\/ingmar-bergman-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ingmar Bergman<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/10\/john-ford-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Walerian Borowcyk<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/search?q=clair\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ren\u00e9 Clair<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/10\/john-ford-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Ford<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/05\/amos-gitai-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amos Gitai<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/search?q=vertov\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dziga Vertov<\/a>; of an actress, Viola Dana and of some researchers, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/05\/sigfried-gideon-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sigfried Giedion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It does little <em>I met again<\/em> a text of\u00a0Peter Greenaway,\u00a0an artist that a filmmaker could never have considered only and in that I am interested very much since I saw in a night session of the Alphaville <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Draughtsman%27s_Contract\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>The Draughtsman&#8217;s Contract<\/em><\/a>,\u00a0later, at the end of the eighties, was a year of my life penetrating into his work &#8211; the fruit of this investigation was a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casadellibro.com\/libro-peter-greenaway\/9788437613628\/493839\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">book<\/a> published by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catedra.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Editorial C\u00e1tedra<\/a>&#8211; since then I could not have stopped being interested me for great and diverse activities that it has developed and, in fact, I have written some articles about his last works and have given some conference &#8211; it is very possible that in October of this year it gives other one &#8211; on his complex path, which goes from his juvenile epoch as cinematographic mounting block to the current one in which it gives multitudinous concerts as video &#8211; jockey.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Greenaway&#8217;s text belongs to a realized interview when it released\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Belly_of_an_Architect\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>The Belly of an Architect<\/em><\/a> &#8211; certainly certainly, <a href=\"http:\/\/independent.academia.edu\/JorgeGorostiza\/Papers\/1535221\/El_sintoma_del_vientre_de_un_arquitecto\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a> there is my very ancient article about this movie &#8211; and is the following one:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abIt seems to me also that there is a clear analogy between the manufacturing process of a movie and that of a building &#8230; since the producers the architects conceive big projects that bring into play important budgets and that finish for never realize. In addition concerning both professions one finds the same heterogeneous sample of prominent figures: producers, financiers, organizers, critics, public, etc. After both the architect and the producer has used time, money, and imagination, they can see, ultimately, since it begins to lose his project\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">It is true that, as was saying Greenaway, the prominent figures, sometimes Machiavellian, who surround both the filmmakers and the architects, they can frustrate his intentions, but also it is true that often these intentions are pernicious and is more beneficial for the company &#8211; fodder, especially, in the architects &#8211; who do not conclude.<\/p>\n<p>Jorge Gorostiza, architect. <span style=\"color: #888888;\">Author of the blog <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Santa Cruz de Tenerife, april 2012<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><!--:gl--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00a0 libro publicado por Editorial C\u00e1tedra-<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_21329\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-21329\" style=\"width: 620px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/peter2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-21329\" title=\"peter2\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/peter2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"822\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-21329\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #888888;\">Peter Greenaway<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Na serie de textos que denominei <em>Arquitectos e Cineastas<\/em> e que relacionan a realizaci\u00f3n dunha pel\u00edcula coa construci\u00f3n dun edificio, hei ir publicando alg\u00fans de directores, como <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/09\/ingmar-bergman-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ingmar Bergman<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/10\/john-ford-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Walerian Borowcyk<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/search?q=clair\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ren\u00e9 Clair<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/10\/john-ford-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">John Ford<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/05\/amos-gitai-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amos Gitai<\/a> e <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/search?q=vertov\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Dziga Vertov<\/a>; dunha actriz, Viola Dana e dun investigador, <a href=\"http:\/\/cinearquitecturaciudad.blogspot.com.es\/2011\/05\/sigfried-gideon-arquitectos-y-cineastas.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sigfried Giedion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hai pouco <em>reencontrei<\/em> un texto de\u00a0Peter Greenaway,\u00a0un artista que nunca puido considerarse s\u00f3 un cineasta e que me interesa moito desde que vin nunha sesi\u00f3n nocturna dos Alphaville <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Draughtsman%27s_Contract\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">O contrato do debuxante<\/a><\/em>,\u00a0despois, a finais dos anos oitenta, estiven un ano da mi\u00f1a vida profundando na s\u00faa obra -o froito desa investigaci\u00f3n foi un <a href=\"https:\/\/www.casadellibro.com\/libro-peter-greenaway\/9788437613628\/493839\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">libro<\/a> publicado por <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catedra.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Editorial C\u00e1tedra<\/a>&#8211; a partires de ent\u00f3n non puiden deixar de interesarme polas moitas e diversas actividades que desenvolveu e, de feito, escrib\u00edn alg\u00fans artigos sobre as s\u00faas \u00faltimas obras e dei algunha conferencia -\u00e9 moi posible que en outubro deste ano imparta outra- sobre a s\u00faa complexa traxectoria, que vai desde a s\u00faa \u00e9poca xuvenil como montador cinematogr\u00e1fico \u00e1 actual en que d\u00e1 concertos multitudinarios como video-jockey.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O texto de Greenaway pertence a unha entrevista realizada cando estreou <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Belly_of_an_Architect\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">O ventre dun arquitecto<\/a><\/em> -por certo, <a href=\"http:\/\/independent.academia.edu\/JorgeGorostiza\/Papers\/1535221\/El_sintoma_del_vientre_de_un_arquitecto\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">aqu\u00ed<\/a> hai un artigo meu moi antigo sobre esta pel\u00edcula- e \u00e9 o seguinte:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abPar\u00e9ceme tam\u00e9n que hai unha clara analox\u00eda entre o proceso de fabricaci\u00f3n dunha pel\u00edcula e o dun edificio&#8230; como os reali\u00adzadores os arquitectos conciben grandes proxectos que po\u00f1en en xogo importantes presupostos e que rematan por non se realizar nunca. Ademais en torno \u00e1s d\u00faas profesi\u00f3ns enc\u00f3ntrase a mesma mostra heterox\u00e9nea de personaxes: produtores, financie\u00adros, organizadores, cr\u00edticos, p\u00fablico, etc. Despois de empregar tempo, di\u00f1eiro, e imaxinaci\u00f3n, tanto o arquitecto coma o realizador, poden, a fin de contas, ver como se bota a perder o seu proxecto.\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c9 certo que, como dic\u00eda Greenaway, os personaxes, \u00e1s veces maquiav\u00e9licos, que rodean tanto os cineastas coma os arquitectos, poden frustrar as s\u00faas intenci\u00f3ns, pero tam\u00e9n \u00e9 certo que a mi\u00fado esas intenci\u00f3ns son nefastas e \u00e9 m\u00e1is beneficioso para a sociedade -penso, sobre todo, nos arquitectos- que non se finalice.<\/p>\n<p>Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. <span style=\"color: #888888;\">Autor do blogue <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Santa Cruz de Tenerife, abril 2012<\/p>\n<p><!--:--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En la serie de textos que he denominado Arquitectos y Cineastas y que relacionan la realizaci\u00f3n de una pel\u00edcula con la construcci\u00f3n de un edificio,\u00a0he ido publicando algunos de directores, como Ingmar Bergman, Walerian Borowcyk, Ren\u00e9 Clair, John Ford, Amos Gitai y Dziga Vertov;\u00a0\u00a0de una actriz, Viola Dana\u00a0y de un\u00a0investigador, Sigfried Giedion. 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