{"id":13900,"date":"2011-05-21T09:25:49","date_gmt":"2011-05-21T09:25:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/?p=13900"},"modified":"2023-07-31T13:26:07","modified_gmt":"2023-07-31T11:26:07","slug":"el-arquitecto-y-el-poder-albert-speer-jorge-gorostiza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/el-arquitecto-y-el-poder-albert-speer-jorge-gorostiza\/","title":{"rendered":"[:es]El arquitecto y el poder. Albert Speer | Jorge Gorostiza[:gl]O arquitecto e o poder. Albert Speer | Jorge Gorostiza[:en]The architect and the power. Albert Speer | Jorge Gorostiza[:]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[:es]<figure id=\"attachment_45387\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-45387\" style=\"width: 750px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-45387\" title=\"El arquitecto y el poder. Albert Speer\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg\" alt=\"El arquitecto y el poder. Albert Speer\" width=\"750\" height=\"1170\" srcset=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg 282w, https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_-192x300.jpg 192w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-45387\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><span style=\"color: #999999;\">El arquitecto y el poder. Albert Speer<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hoy en Espa\u00f1a es un d\u00eda denominado de reflexi\u00f3n porque ma\u00f1ana los ciudadanos iremos a votar. Un d\u00eda hist\u00f3rico porque la gente se ha echado a la calle\u00a0para protestar por un sistema\u00a0que\u00a0s\u00f3lo permite la participaci\u00f3n masiva mediante el voto, no ha funcionado (o incluso ha provocado) esta crisis\u00a0y\u00a0ha blindado a sus miembros.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">No puedo evitar mi entusiasmo ante este movimiento ciudadano que me recuerda a m\u00ed mismo saliendo a la calle a manifestarme en los estertores de aquel tiempo oscuro que han denominado franquismo; es verdad que entonces era m\u00e1s peligroso, pero no menos\u00a0apasionante que ahora.\u00a0No s\u00e9 qu\u00e9 pasar\u00e1 (nadie lo sabe) pero por los menos los espa\u00f1oles se han movido y eso me llena de esperanza.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Un movimiento, por cierto,\u00a0continuamente \u00abinterpretado\u00bb por las im\u00e1genes en movimiento, tanto por sus propios canales en las redes sociales, como por los oficiales.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Todos sabemos quienes son esos pol\u00edticos a los que no se les conoce otra\u00a0profesi\u00f3n, esos que no van a cambiar, ni se van a cuestionar su medio de vida, gente que confieso no me interesa; pero en las listas junto a ellos\u00a0hay t\u00e9cnicos\u00a0y profesionales honrados que, como soy optimista, \u00a0supongo que quieren mejorar su sociedad y no tan s\u00f3lo abandonar las listas del paro.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c9stos\u00a0s\u00ed me interesan y preocupan, y en seguida\u00a0no he podido dejar de acordarme de <a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/tag\/albert-speer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Albert Speer<\/a>, aquel arquitecto, parecido a Fausto, seducido por el diablo hitleriano y, ya que este es un espacio de <em>arquitectura y cine<\/em>, que ha sido el\u00a0arquitecto que m\u00e1s veces ha aparecido en pel\u00edculas de ficci\u00f3n, pero de eso creo que hablar\u00e9 dentro de unas semana.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hace poco consegu\u00ed un viejo libro escrito por Joachim Fest titulado <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3q9Kp78\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Preguntas sin respuesta: Conversaciones con Albert Speer<\/em><\/a> (Ediciones Destino, Barcelona, 2008), Fest hab\u00eda ayudado a Speer en la redacci\u00f3n de sus interesantes <em>Memorias<\/em> y hab\u00eda ido tomando notas de todo aqu\u00e9llo que Speer no escribi\u00f3, y eso es lo que publica en estas conversaciones,\u00a0cuya Introducci\u00f3n finaliza con estas palabras de Fest:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00ab<em>M\u00e1s all\u00e1 del alcance real de su conocimiento, siempre me ha parecido inquietante que un hombre de su procedencia social y familiar, y provisto de los criterios morales propios de su educaci\u00f3n, fuera capaz de sentirse atra\u00eddo por un poder hasta tal punto cruel y ufano de sus atrocidades. Sus a menudo zaherientes muestras de desprecio hacia los jerarcas del r\u00e9gimen con los que se codeaba, lejos de arreglar nada, aumentan a\u00fan m\u00e1s la irritaci\u00f3n que suscita al espectador<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00ab<em>Precisamente esta circunstancia plantea la pregunta de todas las preguntas, una pregunta que constituye el legado de los numerosos tiranos de nuestra \u00e9poca y que todav\u00eda est\u00e1 desprovista de una respuesta siquiera aproximada: \u00bfQu\u00e9 precauciones cabe tomar\u00a0para\u00a0construir una especie de seguro frente a semejante p\u00e9rdida de todos los criterios?.. Y, lo que quiz\u00e1s es a\u00fan m\u00e1s desasosegante \u00bfExisten tales precauciones?<\/em>\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. Autor del blog <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<br \/>\n<\/em>Santa Cruz de Tenerife, marzo 2011<\/p>\n<p>[:en]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-45387\" title=\"conversaciones con A.Speer\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"966\" srcset=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg 282w, https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_-192x300.jpg 192w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Today in Spain it is a day called of reflection because tomorrow the citizens iremos to voting. A historical day because the people have begun to the street to protest for a system that only it allows the massive participation by means of the vote, has not worked (or even it has provoked) this crisis and it has armoured his members. I cannot avoid my enthusiasm before this civil movement that he me remembers going out to the street to demonstrate in the stertors of that dark time that they have named a Franco&#8217;s regime; it is true that at the time it was more dangerous, but not less exciting than now. I don\u00b4t know what will happen (nobody knows it) but for fewer Spanish have moved and it fills me with hope. A movement, certainly, \u00abconstant \u00abinterpreted\u00bb by the images in movement, so much for his own channels in the social networks, since for the officials.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">We know all those who are these politicians whom another profession does not know, this that are not going to change, they are going to question his way of life, in people that I confess I am not interested; but in the lists together with them there are technical personnel and honest professionals that, since I am optimistic, I suppose that they want to improve his company and not just to leave the lists of the unemployment. Yes I interest and worry these, and immediately I could not have stopped agreeing me of <a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Albert_Speer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Albert Speer<\/a>, that architect, looked like to Faust, seduced by the devil hitleriano and, since this one is a blog of architecture and cinema, that he has been the architect that more times it has appeared in movies of fiction, but of it I believe that I will speak inside some week. It does little I obtained an old book written by qualified Joachim Fest\u00a0<em>Preguntas sin respuesta: Conversaciones con Albert Speer<\/em> (Target Editions, Barcelona, 2008), Fest had helped Speer in the draft of his interesting Memories and had been taking notes of every aqu\u00e9llo that Speer did not write, and it is what it publishes in these conversations, which Introduction finishes with these Fest&#8217;s words:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00ab<em>Beyond the royal scope of his knowledge, always it has seemed to me to be worrying that a man of his social and familiar origin, and provided with the moral own criteria of his education, was capable of feeling attracted by a power up to such a cruel and proud point of his atrocities. His often zaherientes samples of scorn towards the leaders of the regime with whom he was hobnobbing, far from arranging nothing, increase furthermore the irritation that provokes the spectator<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abPrecisely this circumstance raises the question of all the questions, a question that constitutes the legacy of the numerous tyrants of our epoch and that still is devoid of a response at least approximate: what precautions is it necessary to take to construct a species of insurance opposite to similar loss of all the criteria?.. And, which probably is furthermore desasosegante do such precautions exist?<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. Author of the blog <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Santa Cruz de Tenerife, march 2011<\/p>\n<p>[:gl]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-45387\" title=\"conversaciones con A.Speer\" src=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"966\" srcset=\"https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_.jpg 282w, https:\/\/veredes.es\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/05\/conversaciones-con-A.Speer_-192x300.jpg 192w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Hoxe en Espa\u00f1a \u00e9 un d\u00eda denominado de reflexi\u00f3n porque ma\u00f1\u00e1 os cidad\u00e1ns iremos a votar. Un d\u00eda hist\u00f3rico porque a xente se botou \u00e1 r\u00faa para protestar por un sistema que s\u00f3 permite a participaci\u00f3n masiva mediante o voto, non funcionou (ou mesmo provocou) esta crise e blindou os seus membros. Non podo evitar o meu entusiasmo ante este movemento cidad\u00e1n que me recorda a min mesmo sa\u00edndo \u00e1 r\u00faa a manifestarme nos estertores daquel tempo escuro que denominaron franquismo; \u00e9 verdade que ent\u00f3n era m\u00e1is perigoso, pero non menos apaixonante que agora. Non sei que pasar\u00e1 (ningu\u00e9n o sabe) pero polos menos os espa\u00f1ois mov\u00e9ronse e iso \u00e9ncheme de esperanza. Un movemento, por certo, continuamente \u00abinterpretado\u00bb polas imaxes en movemento, tanto polas s\u00faas propias canles nas redes sociais, coma polos oficiais.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Todos sabemos os que son eses pol\u00edticos aos que non se lles co\u00f1ece outra profesi\u00f3n, eses que non van cambiar, nin se van cuestionar o seu medio de vida, xente que confeso non me interesa; pero nas listas xunto a eles hai t\u00e9cnicos e profesionais honrados que, como son optimista, supo\u00f1o que queren mellorar a s\u00faa sociedade e non tan s\u00f3 abandonar as listas do paro. Estes si me interesan e preocupan, e axi\u00f1a non puiden deixar de acordarme de\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/es.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Albert_Speer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Albert Speer<\/a>, aquel arquitecto, parecido a Fausto, seducido polo demo hitleriano e, xa que este \u00e9 un blog de arquitectura e cine, que foi o arquitecto que m\u00e1is veces apareceu en pel\u00edculas de ficci\u00f3n, pero diso creo que falarei dentro dunhas semana. Hai pouco consegu\u00edn un vello libro escrito por Joachim Fest titulado <em>Preguntas sen resposta: Conversaci\u00f3ns con Albert Speer<\/em> (Edici\u00f3ns Destino, Barcelona, 2008), Fest axudara a Speer na redacci\u00f3n das s\u00faas interesantes Memorias e fora tomando notas de todo aqu\u00e9llo que Speer non escribiu, e iso \u00e9 o que publica nestas conversaci\u00f3ns, cuxa Introduci\u00f3n finaliza con estas palabras de Fest:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abM\u00e1is al\u00e1 do alcance real do seu co\u00f1ecemento, sempre me pareceu inquietante que un home da s\u00faa procedencia social e familiar, e provisto dos criterios morais propios da s\u00faa educaci\u00f3n, fose capaz de sentirse atra\u00eddo por un poder ata tal punto cruel e oufano das s\u00faas atrocidades. Os seus a mi\u00fado zaherientes mostras de desprezo cara aos xerarcas do r\u00e9xime cos que se relacionaba, lonxe de arranxar nada, aumentan a\u00ednda m\u00e1is a irritaci\u00f3n que suscita ao espectador\u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><em>\u00abPrecisamente esta circunstancia formula a pregunta de todas as preguntas, unha pregunta que constit\u00fae o legado dos numerosos tiranos da nosa \u00e9poca e que a\u00ednda est\u00e1 desprovista dunha resposta sequera aproximada: \u00bfQue precauci\u00f3ns cabe tomar para constru\u00edr unha especie de seguro fronte a semellante perda de todos os criterios?.. E, o que quizais \u00e9 a\u00ednda m\u00e1is desasosegante, \u00bfExisten tales precauci\u00f3ns? \u00bb.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Jorge Gorostiza, arquitecto. Autor do blogue <em>Arquitectura+Cine+Ciudad<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Santa Cruz de Tenerife, marzo 2011<\/p>\n<p>[:]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[:es] Hoy en Espa\u00f1a es un d\u00eda denominado de reflexi\u00f3n porque ma\u00f1ana los ciudadanos iremos a votar. Un d\u00eda hist\u00f3rico porque la gente se ha echado a la calle\u00a0para protestar por un sistema\u00a0que\u00a0s\u00f3lo permite la participaci\u00f3n masiva mediante el voto, no ha funcionado (o incluso ha provocado) esta crisis\u00a0y\u00a0ha blindado a sus miembros. 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